uzts1017852  Nigeria FAT & PROUD - v - Argentina Equites Apocalypsis

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Status Score Points Rating
Won 2 4 0
2
 - 
0
Status Score Points Rating
Lost 0 1 0

2BaDSoSaD (2badsick) (0)
FewBadDays (alexblais252) (0)
joppi (joppi) (0)
KoKeS (kokesakola) (0)
RainbowDash (Hiimdash) (0)
|REAPER (reaper9) (0)
Player of the Match
None Voted
(0) -Razor
(0) HellenSeven
(0) Lindopibe
(0) nikita
(0) nitrafox

Fixtureuzts1017852
GameUrban Terror
EventTS League - Season 10
DivisionDivision 12
Round7
Date29-03-2013 21:45
StatusPlayed
Result entered byMaryJane / 01/04/2013 16:37
Referee
Admin DecisionYes
Fixture Created07-02-2013 13:49 (Trittin)
Game Type

Reschedules
1 24-03-2013 22:25 #fap!
2 25-03-2013 13:43 e'A]
Casa
(Argentina Equites Apocalypsis)
Casa

9 : 5
Abbey
(Nigeria FAT & PROUD)
Abbey

24 : 2

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Team POV Location Size (Mb) Download  
Argentina Equites Apocalypsis -Razor Casa 3.66 [ Download ]  
Argentina Equites Apocalypsis -Razor Abbey 1.53 [ Download ]  
Argentina Equites Apocalypsis Lindopibe Multiple 1.85 [ Download ]  
Argentina Equites Apocalypsis nitrafox Multiple 5.51 [ Download ]  
Argentina Equites Apocalypsis HellenSeven Multiple 2.54 [ Download ]  
Argentina Equites Apocalypsis nikita Casa 2.89 [ Download ]  
Argentina Equites Apocalypsis nikita Abbey 3.3 [ Download ]  
Nigeria FAT & PROUD joppi Multiple 8.3 [ Download ]  
Nigeria FAT & PROUD FewBadDays Multiple 6.75 [ Download ]  
Nigeria FAT & PROUD 2BaDSoSaD Multiple 2.61 [ Download ]  
Nigeria FAT & PROUD KoKeS Multiple 7.49 [ Download ]  
Nigeria FAT & PROUD |REAPER Multiple 6.71 [ Download ]  
Nigeria FAT & PROUD RainbowDash Casa 3.16 [ Download ]  

Admin Report:

no screens no point.

***************************************
nS clan practically forced to clan sk to play another map after having played Casa, Abbey was ns map.

I've seen the demo and read completely, after talking with the leaders of both clans.

Navy Seals get warning and -1 point.

when someone says NO, is NO.

^4-nS|REAPER^3: ^3so orb?
^4(DEAD) sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3no.. abbey





Comments
Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:01 am
 


Hey, when would you like to play this match?
Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:42 am
 


gg
Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:58 pm
 


Weekends are best for us. Saturday or Sunday at 21:30 CET would be great. Would those times work for you?
Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:42 pm
 


Weekdays are best for us. That's why I chose that day. Friday would be the only day we could play now.
Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:02 pm
 


gg
Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:17 pm
 


Good game, but I'm not sure what happened on Orb. Sure, we didn't change our map choice before the match, but we were asking if you'd let us play Orb. We didn't force you to play the map, we were just asking if you'd agree to it...

To clear up any confusion, here's the text from my console log.

^4-nS|REAPER^3: ^3so orb?
^4(DEAD) sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3no.. abbey
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Man, we waited 20 mins for you to ready up
^4(DEAD) sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3admin will give ff to u if we play orb
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Actually.
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^321
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^321 minutes
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Not true.
^4(DEAD) sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3well its not our decition
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3not true?
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If you let us play orb, we can play it.
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3check rules bro
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3no u guys cant
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3I know the rules.
^4-nS|REAPER^3: ^3we cld get a forfeit from u cause we waited 21 mins
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3its just like subs
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If you agree to orb, then we play orb.
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3ITS NOT OUR DECITION
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3CHECK THE FORUM OK?
^4(DEAD) -nS|REAPER^3: ^3lawl
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3KKKK
^4(DEAD) -nS|REAPER^3: ^3know the rules
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3It is youre decision actually.
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3didnt seems like
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3your*
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3yeah?
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Yeah.
^4(DEAD) -nS|REAPER^3: ^3yeah it is
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3check our match vs spanish team
^4-nS|REAPER^3: ^3u can check rules
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If both teams agree on a map, that map will be played.
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3we almost get ff because we didnt change the map
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3bro that was last season
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Who told you that?
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3i dont remember the name of the admin
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3some spanish girl
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If you're kind enough to let us play orb, then we're allowed to play it.
^1(DEAD) -nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3'It is not allowed to change map choice once teams enter the server, unless the opponent team agrees to the map change'
^1(DEAD) -nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3that's the rule.
^1-nS|2BaD^3: ^3why do you want blue lol
^1sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3i dont give a shit rly
^1sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3i just want to play
^1-nS|REAPER^3: ^3lawl
^1-nS|REAPER^3: ^3then orb
^1-nS|REAPER^3: ^3pls
^1-nS|FewBadDays^3: ^3then let's play orb
^1-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If you'd be kind enough to let us play orb, we'd appreciate that.
^1sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3ok go orb and we will ask for the map win later
^1sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3gogogo
^1-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Man, we've shown good sportsmanship too


The actual rule:
5.B Map Choice
Maps choices are reported to the other team leader or a staff member BEFORE THE MATCH. Teams can change their selected map up until match start time. It is not allowed to change map choice once teams enter the server, unless the opponent team agrees to a map change. Teams are only allowed to play maps allowed by the league.


Also, just in-case. Proof of the 21 minute wait for /ready -
Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:23 pm
 


where are the screen of this match?
Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:25 pm
 


gg everyone
Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:12 am
 


- "KoKeS"

Good game, but I'm not sure what happened on Orb. Sure, we didn't change our map choice before the match, but we were asking if you'd let us play Orb. We didn't force you to play the map, we were just asking if you'd agree to it...

To clear up any confusion, here's the text from my console log.

^4-nS|REAPER^3: ^3so orb?
^4(DEAD) sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3no.. abbey
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Man, we waited 20 mins for you to ready up
^4(DEAD) sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3admin will give ff to u if we play orb
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Actually.
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^321
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^321 minutes
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Not true.
^4(DEAD) sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3well its not our decition
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3not true?
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If you let us play orb, we can play it.
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3check rules bro
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3no u guys cant
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3I know the rules.
^4-nS|REAPER^3: ^3we cld get a forfeit from u cause we waited 21 mins
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3its just like subs
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If you agree to orb, then we play orb.
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3ITS NOT OUR DECITION
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3CHECK THE FORUM OK?
^4(DEAD) -nS|REAPER^3: ^3lawl
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3KKKK
^4(DEAD) -nS|REAPER^3: ^3know the rules
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3It is youre decision actually.
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3didnt seems like
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3your*
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3yeah?
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Yeah.
^4(DEAD) -nS|REAPER^3: ^3yeah it is
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3check our match vs spanish team
^4-nS|REAPER^3: ^3u can check rules
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If both teams agree on a map, that map will be played.
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3we almost get ff because we didnt change the map
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3bro that was last season
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Who told you that?
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3i dont remember the name of the admin
^4sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3some spanish girl
^4-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If you're kind enough to let us play orb, then we're allowed to play it.
^1(DEAD) -nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3'It is not allowed to change map choice once teams enter the server, unless the opponent team agrees to the map change'
^1(DEAD) -nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3that's the rule.
^1-nS|2BaD^3: ^3why do you want blue lol
^1sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3i dont give a shit rly
^1sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3i just want to play
^1-nS|REAPER^3: ^3lawl
^1-nS|REAPER^3: ^3then orb
^1-nS|REAPER^3: ^3pls
^1-nS|FewBadDays^3: ^3then let's play orb
^1-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3If you'd be kind enough to let us play orb, we'd appreciate that.
^1sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3ok go orb and we will ask for the map win later
^1sk#meepwnd!^3: ^3gogogo
^1-nS|KoKe$`^3: ^3Man, we've shown good sportsmanship too


The actual rule:
5.B Map Choice
Maps choices are reported to the other team leader or a staff member BEFORE THE MATCH. Teams can change their selected map up until match start time. It is not allowed to change map choice once teams enter the server, unless the opponent team agrees to a map change. Teams are only allowed to play maps allowed by the league.


Also, just in-case. Proof of the 21 minute wait for /ready -
Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:19 pm
 


So any points, what´s done yet?

If the serverowner changes the map to the map the other team purposed, then it´s an official agreement, cause they could have also just ignored the request.

It is not allowed to change map choice once teams enter the server, unless the opponent team agrees to a map change.


Indeed, there the rules are clear.

That point made, it shouldn´t be a great deal to figure the rest out.

Greetings,

Maddyn
Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:09 am
 


What is with the UZ logic? They forced them into the agreement, Well logically if there was no agreement and no means no, then nS would be forfeited the map.

Considering the admin only showed the start of the log, and not the point in which they actually agreed to the map and changed it on their own server...

Seems slightly biased, and logically incorrect, if UZ are going to set rules, the least the admins can do is follow them... really retarded if you ask me.

Furthermore when a logical person approaches the referee of the div and speaks the truth i get the response of - <19:09:15> "UZ|Hinata": if you're not in this div, then shut up and not say anything about this matter, better?

The least you can do for the community is recruit staff that can speak English, and offer a fair point of view on things.
Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:47 pm
 


From my point of view, I can see that UZ still needs english speaking and fair admins, cause this situation was taken out of control, and this admin showned a little bit of disrespect. Just sayin!
Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:25 pm
 


First of all, at least staff-members first have to be found, to do that job - it ain´t that easy, i guess.

But we experienced not only one time a kind-of language-problems in competition-related stuff with that staff-member. That member shows always a strict line,therefore takes personal thoughts/opinions as a guide-line for further talks. Guiding to other supervisors (also of the same div.) are declined with a simple "no".

That "job" or "hobby" or i don´t know what you wanna call it - may not be that easy sometimes. But at least, sometimes you dont want to get the feeling you talk with/against a wall.

I don´t want to be rude, neither i want to boot or slap someone for the time and energy he´s spending for the community. The point is just, that some can´t just "do" and "think, how t hey want to think", cause they want to. Supervisors of the divisions are the first place to go, when players/teams have questions or problems. Honestly in that few situations we had to do that, it was quite difficult cause of above written problems.

Staff: Don´t get mad - just constructive (i hope) critic. Doesnt mean its bad at all Smile

Greetings,

Maddyn aka |meep

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