We have CB playoffs match tomorrow so no go for your reschedule.

What is the story with map? What is your map?

We got playoff on sunday on CB too :/ can we play wednesday ? at 22.00h?

hm. I'll reschedule back to league time just so WE do not get run over with yours random dates and times.
I made adjustments to play CB at other times than normal so it wouldn't affect UZ.

spiki @ b00bs-clan.com is my contact address.
Write me dates and times for whole week when you are available and we'll work something out most probably. I don't specifically mind changing date and time as long it's not something random that you chose. If and when we arrange different time than league default we will both confirm here in comments and notify div admin to put the proper time in this fixture.

Btw, really nice how most of our opponents are always hiding their map choice or deliberately announcing incorrect. If you expect collaboration from me on behalf of reschedule, why are you ignoring the "what is your map" question and in res?

We can't play on sunday.

If you wanted some lenience I wrote the email address.
I love you avoiding map choice + persistently rescheduling to random dates and times.
I hardly doubt that your CB match is exactly at 22h as this one anyway.
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We cant play on sunday, its simple.

Can you play next week then? if you dont want to play wednesday m,onday

Why you can't play on wednesday at 22.00h?

terr some of us work

you are 300 in the roster.. Everyone work? omfg.

First of all, our whole clan is on our UZ roster. Half of our members do not play competitively with few members doing 1 match per year.
We also have TWO squads in UZ TS, which resolves in situation of about half the active match members playing TS mode for b00bs and the other for b00bs-DD.

Your CB playoff match is NOT on Sunday... Just checked. Nice lie.

Looks like you got some admin to change the match time to whatever suits you.
Anyone admin that wanted to resolve this situation should have instructed you to take the offer of rescheduling with me as I suggested. Instead of you seem to be pulling strings. I expect fair competition.
I'll report this.

We play on sunday the playoff:

clanbase.ggl.com/warin...d=11150016

Btw, no one help me... but If we can't play on sunday, you want to win by forfeit or what?

Just pick a date that both teams are available and then we play... remember that you signup here to play... not to win matches by forfeit...

So, when you can play next week? or this week?

Yea terr - that from the team that just took noshow from GG....

So I guess you also have 2 UZ TS matches, 2 Clanbase Playoff matches, STF, UZL, UZ CTF match in the same week.

So forgive us that we don't take two matches the same day that are clearly set for different hours as a very good reason.

Why you don't say a day to play? and stop the bullshit?

It's simple, I propose the next Sunday 27 at 23.00h.

The 24 at 23.00h its good for us too

Or tomorrow 16 at 22.30h its good for us

Any date? you can play?

Are you there Spiki? Or you don't want to fix a date to play the war? :/ very sad.

@Terro
> We play on sunday the playoff:
That is at 23h. And this match should be played at 22h.
Starting at 22h, playing 2 x 20 minutes, having 20 minute "break" + 20 minutes allowed delay for CB TS... man, if you can play 40 min, have 20 or 40 minutes free time and do another match then something is wrong.
This week we have CB TS playoff, CB CTF playoff, STF TS, UCL bomb, UZ CTF and TWO UZ TS. Providing our opponents don't do random reschedules we can do it all.

> Btw, no one help me... but If we can't play on sunday, you want to win by forfeit or what?
> Just pick a date that both teams are available and then we play... remember that you signup here to play... not to win matches by forfeit...
Hahahaha. As Nebel said, that comes from the guy that took forfeit against GG instead of playing them.
Come on, we played over 500 matches and never took FFW, except once in some random pistol and nades league because I though opponents picked that random time and didn't show up.
Other than that, I've been pretty known for rescheduling with just about everyone and not taking FFW even when opponents do not show at arranged time, let alone if they come with one or couple member asking for reschedule.

With you guys, I'm not willing to take that luxury. You didn't responded about your map choice that was asked couple times, and you guys constantly put your players in pcw's with other clans against us last 10 days... Just sad tactic.

> So, when you can play next week? or this week?
This Sunday at 22h. As it is supposed by UZ TS default time.

> Why you don't say a day to play? and stop the bullshit?
This Sunday at 22h. As it is supposed by UZ TS default time.

> Any date? you can play?
This Sunday at 22h. As it is supposed by UZ TS default time.

> Are you there Spiki? Or you don't want to fix a date to play the war? :/ very sad.
I've written my email address. The comment on this fixture do not trigger email and I ain't checking this all day long.

Let me repeat one more time.

Match should be played this Sunday at 22h. As it is supposed by UZ TS default time, and not at this time that looks like some admin changed it upon your request.

3. Planning matches
All matches should be played in the week they are allotted in and scheduled the week before. If this is not possible please contact division referees or supervisors. If the teams fail to agree on a specific time and date, division staff will attempt to facilitate an agreement or schedule the match for a fixed time and date which will be binding for both clans. Failure to show up and play in an admin set match will result in default loss.

What you mean with default time? Read the rules guy, I've talk with our Supervisor and he have read our comments and fix a data till we can have an agreement... I think its very fair.

Btw, we don't have enought players to play this sunday at 22.00h, because our 5th is coming at 23.00h and we got the CB play-off...

Can we play the next week?

Terr, read the whole rules dude...

Anyway, now we are having some other kind of discussion. You say that you guys ain't gonna have 5 at Sunday 22h.

OK then. I do "allow" this match not to be played at Sunday 22h... Since obviously whoever you talk with is pushing for that also... GJ on being impartial admin.

Once again, I've forced it to a neutral time in the middle of the next week, i never knew that spa wanter to play on thursday, they asked me to put it on tuesday first.

So, you want to play next week or?

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From now on I'm in charge of this match, Spiki, Terr both contact me if I didn't reach you before.

We are going to agree on a time and day and if we don't the UZ admins are gonna force it to a time and day non of you will like.

For allt he other crap about the rules: I couldn't care less. Let's get this over with.

b00bs please confirm for tomorow evening.

I am pretty sure we will confirm as soon as we have five players confirmed for any of the given times.

You still dont know if you can play tonight? wtf?

If you don't confirm it some hours before, I guess we will not play today man. So come on..

All I can tell you is that we are trying to accomodate your suggestions. If you are unhappy with that, then I can't change it.

But you can atleast give them a sign of what's going on. If you think you are going to be 5 or if you doubt you are going to be 5. If you don't tell anything to them they don't know if they have to be ready or not.

Well my earlier statement implied that I do not know of 5 confirmed for any of the given times. So the obvious status is: doubtful.

Well I asked Spiki in pm what time you guys could play, he said out of those options probably wednesday. If you guys can't play after all maybe it's time to make a suggestion yourself?

And I got no clue what Spiki is up to. If I answer on a pm from him I expect an answer some day, waiting 3 days is not really showing that you care. I need you guys to start cooperating else I'm going to force to a time and day SPA wants it, atleast they are cooperative in here.

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I confirm. Said I sent email to check check availability for tonight and didn't have enough confirmations.
We will not play the match tonight.
My suggestion is Sunday 27'th October at 22h.

[b00bs] - Our UZ TS match that is supposed to be played at that time is rescheduled (stapro cannot play that late or something), so we are free on Sunday at 22h.
SPA - Team SPA has their UZ TS match at 23h, so Sunday 22h is perfect date and time.
In case that it happens we have the team ready on next few nights I'll ping you SPA guys on irc to check whether you have your team ready too.

Guys, I do not have enough time and will to check out match comments all the time.
On 13'th November, yes 10 days ago I wrote my email address for contact and suggested we open dialog and talk that way.

If you don't want to play against us, just tell it to the admin and stop making the people lossing the time.

Thanks you.

Terr, I wrote my suggestion 1 hour ago.

Sunday night 22h.

The same time match should have and could have been played last Sunday. But I guess you did not want to play and opted to get some of your friends to reschedule it.

And please do not make excuses of it being too late because you guys play 22-02 every night including the ones when you supposedly not available.

Is Sunday night 22h good or not?

It's not fair that I proposed 3 days this week and you decline them and want to play only on Sunday (like the past week... this is the second time you do that). Not fair.

If you want an award in this season, I can suggest this one:



Hope you can understand the irony.

Since Spiki told me he was going to put in some more times today, I'll briefly comment on this.

There is a reason we won a sportsmanship award last season, and also one we won't win it this season, but is it really necessary for you to spit on this award like this?

I mean it is obvious that you want to have your first five players playing and we want our first five players playing. Seriously no big deal. Now the times that we "offer" and "decline" have nothing to do with what we WANT, but what we CAN.

Spiki just "offered" you a time where the team potentially would have to play 4 clanwars (UZ TS, UZ CTF, UZ TS, UCL Bomb) straight. Seriously nothing that we LIKE, but something that we COULD have done to make it work.

It is great that you can put out so many times where you can play, means also that your team can train a lot I guess, and if we were available with 5 players to play we would happily end this discussion right now. Cause this is just pissing everyone of. However you can not expect our team to quit their jobs and whatever else they do during the week. As much as it is not fair to force you to play on Sundays when you don't have five it is not fair to say play one of my dates because I have more available.

Like I said in the other post: 1 hour a week to play a match (last week sunday 22 and this week sunday 22) is NOT enough. You guys deceided to play in so many leagues, than it's your obligation to be active enough and be able to play MORE than 1 hour a week.

It is not their fault that you guys are not willing to play on any other time.

We don't have enought players at 22.00h this sunday.

Here we go for the upcoming week:

Do you want to play next Monday at 22.30h?
next Tuesday at 22.00h?
next Wednesday at 22.00h?
next Thursday at 22.30h?
next sunday at 23.00h?
Do you want to play this match?

All matches have to be played before thursday next week. That leaves wednesday as last option.

And I sure hope that Spiki is going to give more options today. If you want to be active in a league you can not offer only 1 time a week, that's not enough. Teams have to be available for ATLEAST two nights a week.

I can't agree more with Terr. Giving them only one day and time a week is useless and has nothing to do with sportmanship.

I want other suggestions from b00bs TODAY

Can't be bothered with this anymore.
We accept Monday 22:30

Hopefully we'll have good team. If not, SPA enjoy your lame victory.


We play in ALL UrT leagues and only have problems when some clans get their members who are admins or friends admins to mess it up with reschedules.
I've carried over couple matches from past 2 weeks because other clans cannot play on Friday, cannot make it past 21h and all the standard excuses.

Btw, REAL logic would be:
SPA signed for UZ TS which for several seasons is normally played at Sunday on 21h. If they cannot make it, it's their fault.

Also one more thing to note. SPA does play on Sundays at 22h. Most of their matches in UZ are exactly Sunday 22h. Somebody who cares can check it to verify Terr is lying.

I know SPA is eager to win this match, doing all sorts of lame stuff but it's seriously getting out of hand now.

IDK how sportmaship in your interpretation means admin can just randomly reschedule one of his clan matches and force the other team to play whenever he wants.

Seriously spiki, when did you turn into a whining crying little kid?

Come on you are better than this.

1) You play in all divisions and those matches are without problems because 95 % of the clans are ok with playing on sunday. It's not the fault of SPA that they can't play on sunday and that you guys can only play one evening (and often even one hour) a week.

2) Yes they have played matches before on sunday 22, that doesn't say crap. I played all my matches on sunday apart from 1, just because we couldn't get 5 at that evening, it's not that strange.

3) Why do you insist on this sunday stuff? There is no place in the rules that states that clans have to be available at sundays, it's DEFAULT time, that's all, nothing more nothing less.

4) And come on, they want to play with best line up and that's why they don't want to play at sunday? They can still play 5 other evening a week. And Jedimind told me that you guys are doing exactly the same. You want him to be here for the match and he can, normally, only play on sunday. You are doing exactly the same thing.

And PLEASE stop insulting other people by telling that they are lying. I only see one big crying baby in this topic and that is you.

You should take an example from your teammates Nebel and Jedimind who can actually apriciate me investing time in your stupid matches. One thing I'm not going to do ever again if yuo can't behave better.

Match is set for monday 22:30

GL and HF

We are a team that need team-play and not individual skills. So we don't need a specify player to play. All our members should play.

Thanks for your time Gnurkus.

absolutely ridiculous Spiki.

lol

LOL!!

yea, and now the game is pretty much meaningless

It's veeeeeeeeeery strange that [b00bs] have diplomacy problems with all the teams.. LOL!!

Well we were playing 4 leagues and 6 if you count TS & CTF separately, unlike you guys playing UZ TS only.

- "Ginger"

It's veeeeeeeeeery strange that [b00bs] have diplomacy problems with all the teams.. LOL!!

Dude, your team complained about SPA lawyering with the rules for you to play Abbey instead of your map. So idk, maybe YOU have problem with everyone? Or maybe SPA is...

GG for the match. It was good match.

GG, after all that BS in arranging, such an easy match.....learn to play some maps, lol at uptown, your guy saying learn some other maps, yea u saw on orbital, we know how to rape other maps than uptown, better luck and more skill next time....

I told them to let you win.. wheres the prob?

Btw, this is an award for you Spiki:

gg guys.

jedimind go to the street, buy a friends, a boyfriend and change ur shitty server.

hahaha lol

GG. Gl to next.

Yea, I missed you yesterday :p.

Enough energy invested in this match. You played, it's over.

Leave the fixture alone please

haha nice flame

gg guys

^^
whinning ftw

Sorry guys, i cant play yesterday...

But GG guys! And GL in 3 div b00bs!

AHAHAH!! It's so funny to read you both The-Spiki and Jedimind!! Maybe someone raped you when you were kid!! xD

before this I thought ASN is the worst team in terms of cooperating. I was so wrong haha

- "Ginger"

AHAHAH!! It's so funny to read you both The-Spiki and Jedimind!! Maybe someone raped you when you were kid!! xD

i hope you get punished for that.

- "gink0"

before this I thought ASN is the worst team in terms of cooperating. I was so wrong haha

maximum trolling
ASN always cooperate when it has cooperators, when only a player tries to do his best, and others blame out loud, they don't.

- "RAW-mEAT"

i hope you get punished for that.

For what?

both teams had a point, both teams thought they were in the right, both teams wanted to play on our best night with our best 5, in the end b00bs were the team who played on SPA's best night(monday), myself taking the night off work to be avail, b00bs came out on top, all the stuff in between is just whine, im sorry for our part in it, only a game at the end of the day, Ginger i dont know why you are getting involved, nothing to do with you we are nice guys at b00bs we just dont like it when admins set times we 100% not avail or set opponents map to things like Granja just to aggrovate us, Gnurkus did a good job, firm hand, didnt take no shit and we got the match scheduled, worked out well for us cuz we were pissed off and we played an angry uptown and a solid orbital nuff said..